Re: Be objective...

Posted by Moe on February 03, 19102 at 04:12:57:

In Reply to: Re: Be objective... posted by Sultan on February 02, 19102 at 22:34:49:

First of all I don't understand why you are going to another subject without
even having an explanation for the hadiths that are against common sense or
the Noble Quran. Do you find it normal that the prophet (saw) said that women
cannot fast without the authorisation of the husband???? Are you blind???
don't you see unjustice??? or look at this one "Any community whose leader is
a woman will never succeed"... Istarfir 'Allah

My other point is about the explanation of the Quran. Read carefully these
verses please. In Arabic it would be better, there is no better word than the
one chosen by the Most High. Read 75:16-19 God speaks to the prophet (saw) and
says 075.016-19 "Move not thy tongue concerning the (Qur’an) to make haste
therewith. It is for Us to collect it and to promulgate it, But when We have
promulgated it, follow thou its recital (as promulgated). Nay more, it is for
Us to explain it (and make it clear)"
Also you have this verse 17:89 "And indeed We have fully explained to mankind,
in this Qur'ân, every kind of example (MATHALANN) , but most of mankind refuse
(the truth and accept nothing) but disbelief."
God is telling us that He is the One who explain the Quran, and He gave us all
kinds of examples to make it easier to understand.
The problem is that many people try to explain the Quran, but the thing is
that the Quran is the Eternal Miracle. There are many verses that kind of tell
the future or scientific facts in a hidden way, we are not supposed to know
the future, but when the things happen we see it in the Quran which are the
signs that it is the Word of God.
For the practices, God tells Muhammad (saw) to follow Milaat Ibraaheeem. The
thing is that we know that Islam existed even before Muhammad (saw). The first
man called mouslim was Abraham (saw). Which shows us that the practices
already existed. If you do a research on Judaism for example you can see that
they used to pray like us, and there are still some of them that still do, but
the majority don't though.
For the Salat, God states their names and times at:
(1) The Dawn Prayer is mentioned by name in 24:58. Before sunrise.
(2) The Noon Prayer is specified in 17:78. When the sun declines.
(3) The Afternoon Prayer is in 2:238. Midway between noon & sunset.
(4) The Sunset Prayer is mentioned in 11:114. Immediately after sunset.
(5) The Night Prayer is in 11:114, and is mentioned by name in 24:58.

Salat for example has been taught from generation to generation. God is the
guidance to the truth.

Since we are talking about Salat, let me mention that praying silently is a
violation of this verse: [17:110-111] " Say, "Call Him GOD, or call Him the
Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names. You
shall not utter your Contact Prayers (Salat) too loudly, nor secretly; use a
moderate tone. And proclaim: "Praise be to GOD, who has never begotten a son,
nor does He have a partner in His kingship, nor does He need any ally out of
weakness, and magnify Him constantly. ( Kabberho Takbeera) "
Do you find this normal that the prophet (saw) commands or does something that
is contradicting the word of God. Of course NO!!! It's just people's
corruption, they say false things about our beloved prophet (saw). It's like
what the Christians say about Jesus (saw) (Jesus said:....etc)
Anyways, I don't wanna type a whole book in here, but please read the Quran
objectively and read the Hadiths and you will see brother. Don't let me get
you more Hadiths that don't make sense or that contradict the word of God.
Because you won't have any explanation.
I would like to point out that I don't believe that Khalifa is a messenger,
and I don't believe the so called "two false verses" BUT they make a point
about the Hadiths. The fact that they have a couple of things that are not
correct does not make them TOTALLY wrong in everything. The best argumentation
is from the explicit Quran verses.
You should go to the submission web site and read the parts that talk about
the Hadiths, and let me know if it makes sense. Int eh web site you could also
find out about the Quran and the duties...etc
And for the 19-code, it does not distract, it makes the faith grow, don't
forget that mathematics is the language of the universe. and you know that the
universe is created by God.
"To me it seems like a kabbalistic approach to the Quran which is wrong." I
will just ignore this comment cause there is no solid evidence of "wrong".
what is wrong???? having many "coincidences" of numbers that match with
science is wrong???? You know what GOD is the Greatest.... Allahu Akbar
Take care bro and I hope that you will do some reading
p.s. you should take a look at the numbers of rakahaat that is AGAIN around
the 19. Don't forget, 57:03 "Houa (Allah) al-aoual wal aakhir" " He is the
First and the Last" Mathematically speaking the FIRST number is 1 and the LAST
one is 9, you could verify this on any telephone or just look at your keyboard
on the right side. The zero is neutral, not positive neither negative.
Thank you very much for taking the time reading this. Don't do this for me do
it for the Most High.
sallaamat

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